Prowling the dark side of being: exploring the corners of Invertia with Dave Coppola
An invasive corrosion of senses and emotions, Another Scheme of the Wicked from US band Invertia stands to the fore of psyche invading threats and violating seductions unleashed in 2014. The album is a virulently compelling incitement of senses and thoughts from a duo in guitarist/vocalist Dave Coppola and drummer/programmer Tim Winson who seem to instinctively press all the right buttons with their provocative sonic and primal explorations. With an appetite to find out more about the band and its dark depths, we had the pleasure to talk with Dave who helped us explore the new album, the creative union between the two, the art of remixes and plenty more…
Hello welcome to the site and thanks for agreeing to talk with us.
Thank you for the interview, my pleasure!
First of all can you tell us about how you both met.
We actually met thru a mutual friend.
Was there a musical connection right away and how long before thoughts of creating a band took hold?
We started working on songs right away. We basically just started tracking guitars to a beat. Those songs would eventually become “Blasphemy Be My Name” and “Perpetual Alert” from the first album. We didn’t think of it as a “band” at first. It was just a recording project that became a band! We never thought we would play live when we met, that’s for sure. It’s crazy when we think about how we started to where we have come. For example, opening for Blood of Heroes with Bill Laswell, to getting a remix done by Justin Broadrick from Godflesh, to putting out an album with Ohm Resistance. It’s unreal.
Did you have any specific intentions when working on your first songs or was it more of let’s play and see what evolves initially?
It was more let’s see what happens. I never thought Tim and I would still be doing this years later. I’m glad we are though.
Though your sound seems to be tagged most often as industrial black metal we found it to be so much more and pleasingly impossible to tie down. What are the most predominate inspirations upon yourselves which you feel have spiced your writing etc.?
Thanks for the kind words! We have all kinds of inspirations whether it be bands, film, books etc. There are too many to name, especially between the two of us. I listen to a lot of metal like Mayhem and Burzum, and industrial as well, Godflesh and Ministry. Tim likes the Residents and Adam Ant. We both like the same bands like the Pixies and the Butthole Surfers. William S. Burroughs and George Carlin are huge influences as well. Also the film “They Live” by John Carpenter is having a huge influence on the new album which is currently underway. So that’s why we sound they way we do.
You have recently released Another Scheme of the Wicked, a captivating and intrusive hybrid of sound and enterprise. Did it in creation fulfil or your hopes and thoughts or has it evolved before even your expectations with its potency and might?
We did the best we could, we always do. That way no matter what anybody says about it we are still satisfied in the end. Album are like Presidents, it takes time to see the mess you made!
It feels a much darker and more predatory encounter than your previous release, more dangerous one; does it feel like that to you and if so was that a deliberate aim from the start or an organic emergence?
I agree, it is much darker. It has a little more dynamic feel to it than the first one. I’m not saying it a dynamic album just more than the debut haha! We are fast and in your face the whole time with this album other than the remixes. When we were writing we didn’t sit down and plan it that way it just happened. I think that’s the way it goes for most artists, you never know what you’re going to get at the very beginning. It’s always a surprise at some point during the process.
How do the songs come together and evolve primarily between the pair of you?
Typically myself or Tim will write a beat, I’ll put the guitars and bass down and go from there. Tim will take the beat and make it drum sections and the song will evolve over time. Songs can be like a photo, you have to capture the evolution at the right time or you’ll miss it.
Tell us about the intent and premise behind Another Scheme of the Wicked.
The intent was to put a descent industrial metal record. The premise was to make it original and not your every day run of mill metal record. I think we achieved that if I may say so. The album got mixed reviews from the metal community. I knew it would, and at the end of the day I’m glad it did.
The five tracks come with another five remixes, each an interpretation of the previous quintet, was this planned from the first seeds of the release?
Not at all. That was pure luck with a sprinkle of dedication. If you would have told me this album would have those artists on it remixing our music, I would have laughed at you.
In many ways the remixes are doppelgangers of the originals for us, though it is debateable which are the darkest and most frightening versions. Did you give free rein for the likes of Justin K. Broadrick (Godflesh, Jesu) and End.user in their take on your songs?
Absolutely. There was no way I was going to tell those guys what to do. There is no way I could have. You can’t tell Justin Broadrick or Kurt Gluck how to do their job, they just do, that’s why we chose them. That’s the element of surprise I enjoy in this art form I spoke of earlier.
It has to be admitted we have never been fans of remixes, or maybe just do not understand their function though those on Another Scheme of the Wicked have impacted far deeper than most others we have come across on our thoughts. What is it about them which inspires you and lent the idea to include them on the new release?
We are big Skinny Puppy fans and we always liked the way they remixed everything. So I guess it just comes down to demonstrating a different point of view thru a common theme. I always thought that was interesting. I think it gives an extra depth to the album when played in its entirety. The next album we may, if at all, do them separately. To be honest my thinking was, it’s just cheaper for the people purchasing the album to not have to by remixes. But this time around we will give them the choice.
I have to ask as it must happen to someone somewhere, how would you deal with a remix which you did not like and felt did not warrant a place or fitted on one of your releases?
Well, we would be pissed, we hope it would not come to that. That’s why we asked the artists we did, and of course they were very professional in sending us either a couple versions or following up with us to make sure everything was cool.
Back to your songs; at times they seem to be alive as they ignite the imagination and emotions, feeling like they have hidden depths unrevealed to the listener. How intensively did you take sculpting and shaping the songs of the release?
We are very picky in studio. We have a simple chemistry, and it goes like this. If Tim doesn’t come out of his seat during playback of the initial arrangement, it’s not good enough and I’m back to the drawing board. That’s how I know it will ignite the imagination and emotion, because we can see it in ourselves. If it works for us it might work for the listener as well.
Was it an on-going honing until recording time?
Pretty much, mostly the guitars and arranging. We can bring in ideas on the spot with samples and bass parts.
How about the lyrical side of your music? Was that an intensive development and what inspires their breath predominantly?
The lyrics are inspired by just people’s wrong doing really. People’s hatred for one another and trying to get the last laugh on your own specie. It’s a place I don’t like to go for to long a time. We would probably have more material if I frequented the place that inspires the lyrics more often, but it’s a creepy spot.
Tell us about the other projects you r=are both involved in, and were involved in a couple of the remixes on Another Scheme of the Wicked I believe?
I have another industrial project called TranZi3nT and Tim has another project call R3TRD. We use them as a break from Invertia.
What is next on the horizon of Invertia?
We just released a new single for download at invertia.bandcamp.com called “Existence Exit” It won’t be on Amazon or ITunes as they called the cover “pornographic”. You can judge for yourselves. We also a have a 7” single coming out called “Forever Incision” that will have a live version of “Facility of the Feeble” on it, which is the opening track of the debut album. That will be put out through our label Ohm Resistance. Which you will be able to get at ohmresistance.bandcamp.com soon. As for the new album we are hoping for late spring time. We are looking to play some more live shows as well. Hopefully 2015 will be a good year for Invertia!
Thanks again for chatting with us; any final thought you would like to leave us with?
Thanks Pete! It was a pleasure doing this interview, good luck to you!!!